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I am getting an error with the latest build of DGdecNV 238, it will not run and shows an error window as you can see below. I am using Windows 7 x64 SP1 with an Intel i7-3770K CPU and a MSI GTX 1660 GPU. v236 and v237 both run without problems. It's the same for both the x86 and x64 versions.

Might be a win7 thing.
Just tested x64 and x86 on win10 and it works fine

gonca wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:46 pm

Might be a win7 thing.
Just tested x64 and x86 on win10 and it works fine

So why does 236 & 237 work okay? What was changed between 237 and 238 that broke it?

DPI awareness

I'll look into supporting Win 7 tomorrow.

Thanks, there is no rush, it's a busy time of year for many. It is good to know it is on the to do list.

Maybe there is a way to check for the OS and not offer DPI awareness if it is not supported? Presumably this is for 4K displays? I am not aware of the maximum display support in Win 7 because my monitor is only FullHD. DPI awareness might be more than that though.

I did try Win 10 but could not stand it. It was unusable. It's like a lot of software these days, people seem to think that giant buttons are a great idea when they take a large amount of display space and only look like a child's toy. lol

As you can see from my window colour, I dislike white backgrounds which is hard to get rid of fully in Win 10. The dark feature does not get rid of all of it. Themes never really worked well for me on Win 7. Dark themes are difficult to use.

@RedDwarf

Please test this build for Win7:

http://rationalqm.us/misc/DGIndexNV_win7.rar

Yes that runs and seems to work like 237 apart from the buttons being at the top and the button bar being white.

That's great news. Glad you like it. Thank you for your testing, RedDwarf. I'll update the release.

buttons being at the top and the button bar being white

We call that "overall cleaner look".

Now somebody is going to say what about XP?

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Rocky wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:58 pm

Now somebody is going to say what about XP?

Now that DGDecNV is free, could you perhaps take the latest version that can reasonably be expected to work on XP and add the binary to the download page as "DGDecNV Windows XP Final"? I'm also on Windows 7 these days, but I always appreciate when developers keep around older binaries with a "this is the final version to support Windows version x" disclaimer, in addition to the binaries that target newer Windows versions.

That would be difficult as we no longer have any WinXP machines that could be used to determine the last working version. Regardless, we do not want to contribute to the prolonged death rattles of XP.

I guess there are driver limitations, too. Is there a minimum nVidia driver version required for DGDecNV 2053? If there is, I don't see it listed on the main site. I'm still using 2048 with the same drivers I've been using since 2014, as everything "just works", so I'm a bit afraid to try 2053. ^^;

There is an insane number of bug fixes and feature additions in 238 versus the ancient 2048. You sound like one of those XP diehards. Note that 2053 is no more; the most up-to-date is build 238. Everybody has been successfully using 2053 for years. 238 is basically 2053 on steroids.

Tell us what card you have and what driver version you are running.

There's no need to be afraid. You can always go back to your current driver version and 2048 if things go sideways (which I don't anticipate).

And upgrade to a recent Avisynth+ while you are at it.

Even buggy whips became obsolete at some point.

I don't think I'm in quite the same boat as the XP diehards. I'm at least one lake over. I built this rig in 2014, got everything working, and haven't seen a major need to change things since then. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is an excellent motto for computer usage if you want to avoid unnecessary reformatting.

I'm using my trusty GTX 760 on driver 326.80. I couldn't update beyond that driver, because later drivers introduced a bug in Kepler cards that tanked OpenCL performance. I'm not sure if nVidia ever fixed it; as of 2015 there was no fix besides avoiding the broken driver versions, so I never updated again.

Rocky wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:38 am

Digging your avatar.

Thanks. I made it myself. Come to think of it, I probably used DGAVCDec, as my old XP rig had a GeForce 6800 and wasn't compatible with DGDecNV.

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